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Old March 18th, 2005, 10:52 AM
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ASP vs. PHP

Hi all, i'm learning ASP quite quick now and I already
knew PHP. Both languages have their advantages

Both ASP and PHP are stable (in my experience) but
there are differences.

I was wondering wich language you all prefer, and
lets just compare the code, etc. so not the costs
(for example)...

You can post your advantage, but you must have
a clear comment for it ok

(by this one of you can push me over the edge if I have
to choose ASP or PHP for a new website...)

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Old March 18th, 2005, 12:41 PM
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ASP.Net > PHP > ASP, definatly.

ASP hasn't been changed since 2000, thats well over 5 years now. PHP is dynamically changing and has a wide array of add-ons and functions (just needs a namespacing system)

I do advise against anyone picking up ASP when PHP or ASP.Net is a possible choice. The lack of officially sanctioned support from Microsoft (VBS support doesn't count) should be enough reason not to learn it.

Plus, ASP is really inflexible and the only way to truely add functionality is via COM Components, which usually cost a bomb and most ISPs won't let you install them, even if you wrote them yourself. PHP is open-source and much cheaper to implement and learn. ASP.Net just blows everyone away (System.Imaging owns the GDLib for PHP, imho)

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I agree with most of what been said by the Dude - however, one major advantage of ASP is that it's really simple to learn and use, and you have countless tutorials, examples and source codes all over the net... php is considered harder to learn as far as I know.

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You should ask this in many different forums if you want a more
accurate response. You can tell from the title of these forums
what the most common reply is gonna be, but go over to Dev
Shed forums, and you'll see almost everyone there will answer
PHP then perl then Java, then every other language under the
sun before ASP/.NET...

-> Same question asked at Dev Shed...

Php gets my vote, btw...

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Old March 19th, 2005, 07:39 AM
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you'll see almost everyone there will answer
PHP then perl then Java, then every other language under the
sun before ASP/.NET...


A lot of PHP's advocates haven't even tried ASP.Net and dismiss it out of hand on the grounds that it's Microsoft devil spawn.

They often forget that DotNet exists in an Open-Source implementation known as "MONO" and provides more power and flexibility than PHP.

However, due to the way ASP.Net works, it's hard to develop for it without a decent IDE, and the only "real" DotNet IDEs are both Microsoft products, the freeware "ASP.Net Web Matrix" and the fully-blown VisualStudio. So people aren't going to feel so inclined to use the technology.

When facing zealous and arrogant PHP advocates, I usually say:

"We compile, you interpret, and no-one has Zend, 'nuff said"

Then:

"Owned"

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"We compile, you interpret, and no-one has Zend, 'nuff said"

Then:

"Owned"
Lol

That is probably true that most php developers have never used
.NET [me included I started to learn it once, but couldn't get
into it for some reason, I've done quite a bit of ASP'ing though],
but my point was just that you can't just come to an ASP board
and ask 'What's better, ASP or PHP?'...

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Old March 19th, 2005, 08:16 AM
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Well quite simply... by looking at a whole range of factors, overall PHP is better than ASP.

...When ASP does NOT entail "ASP.Net", because they're completely different products.

That's all I have to say the issue really.

But if you have the option to develop in ASP.Net rather than PHP or ASP, take a seriously good look at it and download the VisualStudio demo and at least give it a shot.

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Thumbs up Efficiency Comparision of ASP.NET and PHP

please refer to this link http://blogs.developpeur.org/redo/archive/2004/08/17/2305.aspx

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FACT: Bogus data (running PHP on IIS - Please)
ANALYSIS: IIS is built to run .NET. This is exactly how m$oft beat netscape... they built their operating system to run one of their products embedded/faster than their competitor's product.

RESULT: The only problem for m$oft this time around is the prevalence of apache. They don't own the webserver and they won't own the market share like they used to.

While I'm sure .NET is awesome and I'll probably have to use it at some point, I think IIS is junk. Any software that doesn't work for a time and then gets rebooted to work perfectly is poor, poor, poor, poor, pisspoor at best.

too bad IIS just isn't a proper ooponent for Apache.

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PHP without question.

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PHP without question.

Interesting... cause I could've sworn I heard you say ".NET is awesome" over at devshed. Flipflopper


PHP here, too - as a former ASP developer (not .NET - can't say much about that framework). ASP w/VBscript with simple tasks was easy and kinda fun, but as soon as you want to do something interesting - headaches would consistently ensue. With PHP, doing weird stuff has never been easier! And I'm learning everyday -- it's awesome.

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Interesting... cause I could've sworn I heard you say ".NET is awesome" over at devshed. Flipflopper
Lies! Lies I say!
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With PHP, doing weird stuff has never been easier!

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They're all tools. Use whatever one fits the nut you're trying to screw.
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