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Old December 15th, 2005, 04:56 PM
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One of those questions
That doesn't really have an answer.

Java; anybody used it? Looks like I might need to learn it. Quickly.

What's it like? Easy? Hard? Any pit-falls? Any good points? What language is it "like"?

Any tips/hints/advice?

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It's similar to C based languages.
It wasn't my favorite language to work with, since I didn't have an IDE to write the code. I wrote it all in notepad and compiled it through the command line.

I believe there are some tutorials on the Sun Microsystems website.
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You might want to try out Eclipse, the IDE is all done in java and there are good tools in Eclipse for writing java. I use Eclipse for PHP development and it's a pretty good IDE.
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You might want to try out Eclipse, the IDE is all done in java and there are good tools in Eclipse for writing java. I use Eclipse for PHP development and it's a pretty good IDE.
ooo, i will download it and have a go at using it for PHP
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Java - Very like C# (or vica verca) but slower when running.

If you understand OOP that will lessen the learning curve a
huge amount
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That's great.

Cheers all.

I'll give the IDE a go; hate writing code in notepad - years of HTML coding in it have left their mark!
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It's similar to C based languages.
It wasn't my favorite language to work with, since I didn't have an IDE to write the code. I wrote it all in notepad and compiled it through the command line.

I believe there are some tutorials on the Sun Microsystems website.
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used Java for my final project in the university - it's very similar
to C/C++ in syntax, and C# copied many concepts from Java
mainly those concepts:
  • everything inherit from one class called Object
  • no pointers
  • automatic garbage collection let you "create and forget" -
    unlike C++ where you had to manually free any memory that you
    consumed, you can create as many objects you like on the fly and
    never worry about memory leaks.

bottom line, Java is powerful and simple to write, and its main
advantage is the "cross-OS" ability - the same code would compile
and run the same on any operating system supporting Java.
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[*]automatic garbage collection let you "create and forget" -
unlike C++ where you had to manually free any memory that you
consumed, you can create as many objects you like on the fly and
never worry about memory leaks.[/list]


Sounds good to me!
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yeah, the only downside is those garbage collectors make the program
work rather slow. other than this, it's almost perfect.
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ooo, i will download it and have a go at using it for PHP

As long as you have a suitable java runtime installed, installing Eclipse was pretty easy. It's a big and sophisticated IDE and you'll need to spend a bit of time getting familiar with Eclipse to get it going. I am just barely scratching the surface.

You need to get the phpEclipse plugin, and I haven't gotten the php debugging to work with php 5.0.4 yet, but it's nice to have your php files in the IDE with the ability to open them from the IDE itself.
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As long as you have a suitable java runtime installed, installing Eclipse was pretty easy. It's a big and sophisticated IDE and you'll need to spend a bit of time getting familiar with Eclipse to get it going. I am just barely scratching the surface.

You need to get the phpEclipse plugin, and I haven't gotten the php debugging to work with php 5.0.4 yet, but it's nice to have your php files in the IDE with the ability to open them from the IDE itself.
Thanks i have downloaded it, gotta look into CMS solutions at the moment but once that is done i will have a play! I will hve to look for the phpEclipse plugin too
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