Response to a spammer

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April 17th, 2005, 03:59 AM

guymclaren

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Response to a spammer

Kevin
This note is not a criticism of you and the way you do business but really absolutely worth reading, In fact I would suggest Printing it an placing it on the wall next to your desk as a reminder. Kevin I am not sending this mail to upset you or to antagonise you but in the spirit of educating some one new to the internet as to ettiquette, The internet may have been described to you as a place to make big money with very little input or even rules. This friend, is a fallacy, The Internet is a place to improve your business using various techniques which I will be glad to offer advice on.

Kevin, you are guilty of spam, but even worse you sent my email address to all the people on your list allowing other spammers to harvest my email address, You will not actually gain business this way as you will upset the people on your list. I am asuming that this is the first time you are using this blanket spamming technique as it is so unprofessionally done, You are not hiding behind a unusable email address, You have no software for ensuring only my address appears in the to box, with the result I will be kind to you and offer some education and a little information as to how I would normally handle spammers.

Don't do this as it upsets people having to pay to download your unwanted, unrequested information.
Send your junk by post, This way if someone is interested they can visit your website and ask for more details, If not the cost was yours not theirs so nobody is upset.
Target your market properly and get yourself a decent website with an opt in email list.
Call first, find the contact person and tell him you will be emailing him some information.
Send your junk by post, This way if someone is interested they can visit your website and ask for more details, If not the cost was yours not theirs so nobody is upset. I know I've repeated this but it is very important.
Write a decent sales letter with a hook to make sure you get a response. I will include an example below.
There are many ways of using the internet to improve your turnover spam is not the one to use though.
Make sure the email address you are using is valid as the email address you used to send this now comes to me.

Should you need any more information please feel free to call me on 072 706 9316, or even ask a few questions by email.

Spam control methods.
My normal method of solving spam problems takes the following format. I would report you to your ISP who would in a fit of pique and decency cancel your email address and even worse remove your website. I have had great success in stopping 3 websites this week alone. We have had 5 email addresses cancelled. This results in a lot of wasted effort for the spammer as everytime he sends me an emeil I destroy his business, NO email and website, how do people contact him now? I am including an email from one of the ISP's that prove how easy this is to do.

Copy of email sent to yesnic and response. Please note the reply was sent in less than 1 hours, This poor spammer wasted an entire mornings work sending mails and even more time developing his website, registering a domain, uploading his website and other related activities, to have his website removed in only a couple of hours of sending such spam.

From: "YesNIC.com"
To: "'Guy McLaren'"
Subject: **SPAM** RE: Spam
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:07:05
Thank you for contacting YesNIC.

We have deactivated and locked the domain name.

If you have further questions, feel free to contact us.

Thank you.

Best Regards,
YesNIC Support
end of copy

Feel free to visit http://www.coulleat.com to see their non existent website.

Please note I deleted your original mail and the list of addresses. Sending an email to mweb complaining about this spam would have similar results.

Marketing letter
Can you get a new R3499.00 website for only R1200.00?Read this important letter to find out.

Dear Kevin
Yes its true you can have a brand new website for only R1200.00 but only if you are one of the first five people to respond to this letter.

In February we received an order that would have kept us busy for the next four months, this order was cancelled last week. This has created a slight problem for us in that income we were assured of is no longer there and my problem is your opportunity.

In order to solve my immediate problem, I have decided to do something daring. I will give you the details of this sensational deal in a minute, but first let me tell you about this amazing application.

‘contentbuilder’ is an ‘update it yourself’ web application that is designed specifically for the small to medium sized business.

You need no knowledge of HTML or any other programming language.
Using simple form based inputs you can add a new web page in minutes.
Up to 350 pages on your website for this incredible price.
Included in this phenomenal offer are the ‘picture gallery’ module and the ‘frequently asked question’ module.
You can have a 350 page website with 100’s of photos and frequently asked questions, a form to mail script allowing you to be contacted by email directly from your website and a reciprocal links generator.
You can have full control of your website, no longer paying expensive designers loads of money to make small changes to your content.

Now in order to solve our problem we could attempt to find another big contract but this would take more time than we want to take, instead we decided to make this outstanding offer to businesses in our own community. What this means is that if you have been thinking about replacing that website that has no benefit to you with something that works, but you’ve put it off because the price is too high now is the time to take advantage of our disappointment.

Instead of paying R3499.00 for your website, you can pay only R1200.00 for this package. Remember we do the design, the installation & the training; all you have to do is add the content.

There’s more good news: You can even pay in 3 easy instalments with 0% interest. That’s right we will break up your payments into 3 easy payments of R400.00 30 days apart. For your immediate response will also add the following bonuses free

Bonus 2
We will also add at no extra cost a fully interactive discussion forum for you to discuss your business ideals and services with your clients and prospects.

Bonus 3
We will also add at no extra cost a News forum. This forum is wher you can place your latest company news keeping your website fresh and up to date at all times.

This offer excludes hosting and domain registration.

Sincerely
Guy

PS: benefit from a 2-year hosting agreement at R300.00p/m and we will for no extra cost place banner adverts on four of our lowveldschools.co.za websites (value R400.00p/m) for the duration of your agreement. There is a minimum hosting agreement of 12 months @ R250.00p/m. Schools offer excludes tobacco, Alcohol and Adult material.
End Marketing letter

Kevin if you respond within 3 days I will extend this offer to you with an events diary replacing the lowveldnet entry.

Guy McLaren
Developer
072 706 9316
www.webtech.co.za
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." -- Mark Twain
"I am not young enough to know everything." --Oscar Wilde

April 17th, 2005, 05:51 AM

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