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Old June 27th, 2005, 09:19 AM
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Visual Studio or notepad
I've been working on ASP and ASP.NET pages using gvim (vi for Windows similiar to notepad) working with SQL transactions. The reason why I use vi is because I've been heavy into linux/UNIX shell scripting, very text-based minded. However, I'm looking at Visual Studio and think that it might be bloatware in codes. Is Visual Studio 6.0 worth it, in time saving, faster codes or whatever? I would love to hear your experience in the difference between notepad.exe (or your pereferred editor) and Visual Studio. Thanks!
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Old June 27th, 2005, 10:57 AM
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I use Visual Studio 2003 and personally i find it a lot better than using an editor like notepad. The main reason is because you can produce apps much quicker and more efficiently. It also makes debugging your apps a breeze and the intellisense is a good help.
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Old June 27th, 2005, 11:53 AM
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I'm oin VS6 and VS2003 and it mtch easy and faster.
VS2003 not greate if you developing an asp pages (why i still using VS6) but works better for .net projects
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Old June 27th, 2005, 03:14 PM
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Alright. I will give Visual Studio 6.0 a try. I'm going to develop ASP pages with it, so which part of VS I should use?
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I don't suggest using Visual Studio. You'll get very verbose code and i think it's very poor with cross-browser compliance with its code.

I suggest a simple text editor with syntax coloring. Hundreds free online. 1stPage was one I used before I started developing only on the Mac.
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for classic ASP or html, do not use the Studio. it's like killing tiny bug with very big hammer. however for ASP.NET you better use it, as it will make most of the dirty work for you - so it's worth the time and effort.
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for classic ASP or html, do not use the Studio. it's like killing tiny bug with very big hammer. however for ASP.NET you better use it, as it will make most of the dirty work for you - so it's worth the time and effort.


Interesting... I'm running ASP.NET at where I work. I agree with "Killing tiny bug with very big hammer" as I'm minimialist in how I code my programs. Accessibility, CSS positioning with absolutely no mark up language in body except for necessary tags, a lot of stored procedures in SQL (for cross-platform), planning to write XML (not sure of its benefits) and so on.

Looks like I will need to use Visual Studio, create a project, open it up in text editor and h4xx0r it away to my liking.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 07:59 AM
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be very careful to not open aspx/html page in Design view, the Studio will ruin the html and make it Microsoft-compatible.
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be very careful to not open aspx/html page in Design view, the Studio will ruin the html and make it Microsoft-compatible.


Hmm... would be nice if there is an url with list of warnings and advices for people like me. I've been planning to create a proposal to "upgrade" from IE to either FireFox or Opera in IntraNet
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Old June 28th, 2005, 08:12 AM
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Wait a minute, any truth behind this article?

http://www.theserverside.net/news/thread.tss?thread_id=33023

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Old June 28th, 2005, 08:21 AM
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Posted by: Paul Ballard on April 01, 2005 @ 04:05 AM

April's fool.


I've been fooled.


*dang*
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Old June 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM
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What is a good book that I can get started into Visual Studio?
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