Page 2 - What ASP software do you use ?

Ever heard of "the undo stack"

I just use Design View to get a quick overview of what my page looks like, VS could do with a "Preview View" like FrontPage and HomeSite that just shows how the page will appear without any of the "helper" borders or visible tables and stuff

I write all of my code in binary, with pen and paper.
Then I type it into notepad!

oh, and for my mathematical calculations, I use an abacas.

WHO4! duud3!

th4ts soo0ooo 1337!!111!

I use crimson editor. It is just a plain free text editor, but it provides
colour coding to asp, java, sql and a bunch of other languages.
(as soon as you give the file the extension)

DREAMWEAVER!!!

it gives you the line number to your left, and color codes everything.. and even will help you complete stuff as you are typing.. you can't go wrong.

i actually didn't know that it could generate code until i read this thread..

You are an abomination unto mankind, take that back naaiiii!!!

a) VisualStudio and all the other IDEs do everything Dreamweaver does for server-side code and waaay more besides

b) Line-numbering, syntax highlighting, color coding, intellisense, and the like... they're all standard features of all IDEs

c) If you use Dreamweaver to generate code then you are mistaken... Dreamweaver's "generated" code is riddled with errors, propreity formats, and spaghetti code

....You can get VisualStudio 2003 Professional for £60 ($140) on a student license, this is less than Dreamweaver which is £88 ($180) for a student discount

I do so hope you were performing satire of all the Dreamweaver "fanbois" seen over on AbsoluteCross and TutorialForums

well, i am a poor college kid and all i have is dreamweaver.. it suits me just fine. I don't use the code it generates, i write my own, and usually consult google, or this forum if i have trouble.

Can I just make the point that everyone is different in the way they build websites and the tools they use to build them....furthermore, people have their "favourite" tools which may include Dreamweaver, MS FP, notepad, textpad or any other piece of software available on the market for building websites. I, probably like millions of other people in the world, started off using Dreamweaver...at the time it done the job and I was only creating "hobby" sites for friends or family. I then progressed onto teaching myself HTML and ASP using nothing else but notepad....although I have to admit that I often still use Frontpage 2003 because of the improved features from previous versions. Ok, the point that I'm trying to make, and this isn't directed at you Web Standards Man, is that people should be left to use whatever they feel comfortable with using to build their websites.

Thats all well and good

I just have the habit of complaining when people use IDEs like FrontPage and Dreamweaver to actually generate the code they used, then claim the site was all their own work, when all they did was draw a couple of tables or use a pre-existing template

that's my boy!
too bad so many ppl use only the code it generates, without even understanding what it's doing or why, then can't solve the weird errors that happens.
it's also like the script kiddies who just use code-generated-by-others and can't change bit in that code - they only blindly using pre-made code. in my opinion, this is far from true programming.

Fully understand what your saying Web Standards Man and Shadow Wizard......but people have got to start somewhere. Not sure what learning curve you guys took to understand HTML, ASP etc was, but I partly learnt how to hand code by looking at the code that Dreamweaver and FP generated. Granted, it's not the best example of coding but it at least gives you an insight into how things such as tables, frames etc are built. It was only when I purchased a decent HTML book that I began to realise how bad the code generated by programs such as Dreamweaver and FP actually was. Having said that, these programs are still good enough for anyone from a newbie to a fully fledged developer to use for building a website. Some kid whose doing a website about their favourite pastime isn't gonna care about the code behind it...he just wants to get the site up and running to show off to his friends. The first website that I created some 15 years ago listed tips and cheats for computer games.....looking back now it was the most ugly site you could imagine. But at the time I used Frontpage Express to build it and was well pleased with my creation.

Spookey!

...my first website was a game cheatcode site too!

This was back in early 1997 using a mid 1996 editor, before the advent of any real HTML editors (not to mention the HTML spec itself)

...Although now I'm a Steam addict and cannot stand cheaters, they're such lamers... seeing those "CheatMaster" adverts on the inside of PlayStation magazine just sickens me (all the effort devs put into a game, spoiled by cheaters who cannot be arsed to even watch the instructional videos)

Madhouse: 15 years ago was 1990, FrontPage Express didn't exist back then

hmm... I started by reading Html book. took me three hours, if my memory isn't failing me and it was enough to get a grip on what's going on. so, with that basic html knowledge (which by the way did not change until I saw posts here about xhtml and standard coding) I messed around with web pages to get better idea. having html in my grasp, I moved to the next book: ASP For Dummies... that one was bigger animal, took me month to consume it. I actually needed only database stuff (had to build website with existing database backend) but learned all the basics from the book as I assumed (correctly) that without knowing all the basics, one is bound to fail sometime later. oh, that was five years ago...

My memory must be getting worse than what I thought!!