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Old January 27th, 2004, 03:34 AM
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Developers for $4/hr

$4/hr for Minimum of 80 Hours.

>.net
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> SQL Server
> MS Access
> Oracle
> MySQL


http://cubexsystems.net

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Old January 27th, 2004, 09:08 AM
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aren't developers worth a lot more than $4/hr??

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Old January 27th, 2004, 11:18 AM
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haffej, you are absolutely correct and we value our team.

i think explanation is, this is just good business for us.

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Where I am from, that's not even minimum wage!

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Old February 6th, 2004, 07:56 PM
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Hey, cappin how about $2.50 Canadian instead?

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aren't developers worth a lot more than $4/hr??


Umm, you betcha, cappin. Und ve vill do its for
evun less den that. How's about $2.50/hr in
CANADIAN DOLLARS as a real gudt hot doggie special
for dis weeks only! Und yew can sea dhat ve speak
Englush ahs gudt as anyvun aroundt. We forgot to
tell you that I wrote dis real slowly becuz I know that
you lowballers read real slow, too and work real slowly.
Ozzer zan zhat if we get it right the first time, vee vill
be simply amazed cause that has never happen beefour.
Geef us a try, we are like cheap hookers... we look bad
we smell bad and we got lotsa germs and saggy eyelids
too. Hey but the price is right if you can get it up.
Enjoy. And remember you gotta USE our cheap code
AFTER you paid for it, too. Hehehe.

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Old February 7th, 2004, 12:55 AM
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hi

I have small piece about outsourcing on my site. http://cubexsystems.net/home/services.htm

This will explain how we do it.

It is basically the economies of scale that help us. $4 is like Rs200 which when you translate in volme is not bad.


Hope it helps.

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I too was baffled by the $4 an hour. But it appears that the company is in Pakistan. Perhaps he's not looking to necessarily hire from the US. Even though no developer from the US will work for $4 bucks an hour, perhaps he will find someone in a different place that will find that to be a good deal. Who knows!

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They are only paying the equivalent of $4/hr in Pakistan

What is guy is saying is that for only $4/hr for a minimum
project of 80 hours you can HIRE his crack staff of programmers
to do your bidding. But when you look at their demo sites, all
you see is html based fluffy, puff piece sites. Where is the SQL Server and the Oracle back-ends? Where is the ASP with database interaction, let alone the ASP.NET with SQL or Oracle interaction? Where is the Active as in Active Server Pages action, not this Static HTML candy-*** stuff. Where is the complexity, where is the Beef? Where is a demonstration of skills, complexity and interaction? Not even ONE data input form, or a fill in the blanks and it will send us an ASP based eMail. NOTHING. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. ZIPPO. NADA. This is just another plot to ruin our economy by lowballing hard working Americans, I think and it stinks. What we do not need is cash flow overseas to countries that do not even police their own terrorists and their own bandits. Keep your money in the USA and hire USA based programmers. In the long run it will
be worth it in fact because you have time zone synched and demo servers on this continent and you can sue in court for non-performance or for non delivery. Who ya gonna sue when
your Pakistani code never gets delivered or works like doggie-doo? Who ya gonna call? Ghost-busters? Might as well. How about loss of business opportunity because the code delivered does not come close to matching specs? Huh? Then what? Let him show some ASP.NET sites with database interaction and maybe then it would be worth a shot. So far he is all talk and no action. All promises and no delivery.

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jfbevilauqa

Hi, i really appricate your comments and arguement

I just want to point out that links in our profile are those of our clients and not all the end projects
that we did for them. And the contractual and Non Disclosure aggrements makes sure we do not list
everything. So is the nature of outsourcing and hence the lack of juice, the missign cutting edge
code and connectivity.

Broadband allow us to move the code across networks to our client side. The way we work is give
access to our clients to a project management software. Thru that they can directly control,
help monitors task assignment and hours spent.

As for the 'terror' bit, its tempting but i must resist and not reply to that.

Thing is you have as much the right to a good job/work/business. And if you can profile quality
serivce/product competitively it will be yours. But you already know that.

Outsourcing is just another business model.

Anyone looking for sample of our work, code etc please email us.

Regards.

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Want more details

Pls send me detail to URL
I'm ASP/ASP.net with 3 yrs and 7 months exp developer......

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Navina14, you just said in your other post that you only had 3yrs. 6 months experience??? Now you have 5 years??

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Navina14, you just said in your other post that you only had 3yrs. 6 months experience??? Now you have 5 years??


Sorry i mentioned with my ASP teaching field experince.
In development i've 3 yrs and 7 mon exp.......

Real Time Exp is apart from Knowledge

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Thumbs down You can get much better outsourcing rates

Why do you want to ruin the long term prosects for yourself and other outsourcing companies? You can still command much better hourly rates for outsourced jobs?
$4/hr is like the bottom of the barrel - I am sure your company must be delviering better quality than that.

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$4/hr for Minimum of 80 Hours.

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