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DIVs

So I finally decided to stop using nested tables and tried the div's route. Here's my code and followed by that will be the questions:

Code:
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>mysite.com</title>
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_swapImgRestore() { //v3.0
  var i,x,a=document.MM_sr; for(i=0;a&&i<a.length&&(x=a[i])&&x.oSrc;i++) x.src=x.oSrc;
}

function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
  var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
    var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
    if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}

function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
  var p,i,x;  if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
    d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
  if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
  for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
  if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
}

function MM_swapImage() { //v3.0
  var i,j=0,x,a=MM_swapImage.arguments; document.MM_sr=new Array; for(i=0;i<(a.length-2);i+=3)
   if ((x=MM_findObj(a[i]))!=null){document.MM_sr[j++]=x; if(!x.oSrc) x.oSrc=x.src; x.src=a[i+2];}
}
//-->
</script>
</head>

<body onLoad="MM_preloadImages('images/menu_r1_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r2_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r3_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r4_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r5_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r6_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r7_c1_f2.gif','images/menu_r8_c1_f2.gif')">

<div style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0; width: 800; height: 72">
  <span style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0">
  <img border="0" src="images/logo.jpg" width="800" height="72"></span></div>
<div style="position: absolute; left: 200; top: 72; width: 25; height: 25">
  <img border="0" src="images/rndmenu.jpg" width="25" height="25"></div>
<div style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 72; width: 150; height: 25; z-index:0">
  <div align="center">
    <center>
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" width="200" id="topleft_border" bgcolor="#990000" height="25">
      <tr>
        <td>&nbsp;</td>
      </tr>
    </table>
    </center>
  </div>
</div>
<div style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 95; width: 150; height: 40">
  <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" width="200" id="userlogin" bgcolor="#990000" height="40">
    <tr>
      <td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF" size="2"><b>User ID:&nbsp;&nbsp;
      </b></font><input type="text" name="userid" size="15"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td align="center"><b><font size="2" color="#FFFFFF">Password:</font></b><input type="password" name="pword" size="15"></td>
    </tr>
  </table>
</div>
<div style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 139; width: 200; height: 160">
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="200">
	<tr valign="top">
	<td bgcolor="#990000">&nbsp;</td>
	<tr valign="top">
	<td valign="left" bgcolor="#990000">
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Home','','images/menu_r1_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r1_c1.gif" alt="Home" name="Home" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
	<br>
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('AboutMe','','images/menu_r2_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r2_c1.gif" alt="About Me" name="AboutMe" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
	<br>
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Articles','','images/menu_r8_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r8_c1.gif" alt="Articles" name="Articles" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
	<br>
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Assign','','images/menu_r7_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r7_c1.gif" alt="Assignments" name="Assign" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
    <br>
    <a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('ClassSc','','images/menu_r3_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r3_c1.gif" alt="Class Schedule" name="ClassSc" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
	<br>
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Contact','','images/menu_r4_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r4_c1.gif" alt="Contact Me" name="Contact" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
	<br>
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Control','','images/menu_r5_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r5_c1.gif" alt="Control Panel" name="Control" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a>
	<br>
	<a href="http://www.gohere.com" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Grading','','images/menu_r6_c1_f2.gif',1)">
    <img src="images/menu_r6_c1.gif" alt="Grading Scale" name="Grading" width="150" height="20" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
</table>
</div>
<div style="position: absolute; left: 200; top: 346">
<img src="images/brndmenu.jpg" border="0" width="25" height="25">
</div>
<div style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 346; width: 200; height: 25">
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="200" bgcolor="#990000" height="25">
	<tr>
	<td>&nbsp;</td>
	</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>

</html>


In red, I have an image that gives a rounding look. How do I make this move down as the text (which I haven't added a part for yet), gets longer? It has to remain in that location from the left, but I want it to move down. I don't even know where to begin with this as I am used to only doing the web application programming. Maybe someone could point me to a good tutorial...thanks

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you won't be able to use position: absolute, AND have the text cause the image to move down. You need to find a way to position the image where you want it...in the normal flow of the document...or maybe using float.
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you won't be able to use position: absolute, AND have the text cause the image to move down. You need to find a way to position the image where you want it...in the normal flow of the document...or maybe using float.


I knew I couldn't use position absolute, I think that one is self-explanatory. I'm just not sure how to go about doing this. Guess I should have spent more time with the layout portion of my sites.

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I knew I couldn't use position absolute, I think that one is self-explanatory. I'm just not sure how to go about doing this. Guess I should have spent more time with the layout portion of my sites.


Do you have a link to your site I can see?

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unfortunately, it's not up yet. I'm just running it on IIS on my lap top.

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unfortunately, it's not up yet. I'm just running it on IIS on my lap top.


that's cool, just wondering.

When you first start doing designs with the idea of doing them "tableless", it feels like all your tools are broken. I remember it seemed like kind of a stiff learning curve at first. I think you're on the right track though! (if it's any consolation)

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that's cool, just wondering.

When you first start doing designs with the idea of doing them "tableless", it feels like all your tools are broken. I remember it seemed like kind of a stiff learning curve at first. I think you're on the right track though! (if it's any consolation)


lol, thanks. I just wish I knew what I was doing. Know if any good tutorials around?

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lol, thanks. I just wish I knew what I was doing. Know if any good tutorials around?


It is a stiff learning curve, but worth doing. A very good book that
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Including and this is the bit I like... converting existing table
layouts to CSS.
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It is a stiff learning curve, but worth doing. A very good book that
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Including and this is the bit I like... converting existing table
layouts to CSS.


I recommend that book as well. It's probably a tiny bit advanced if you are a brand new beginner with CSS. I started with this book by Molly Holzschlag. It was REAL good. She has a newer on that I haven't read yet that is probably good too.

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Thanks, I will check these out. I've dealt with a some style sheets before, but it was just basic things like what happens to a link when a user hovers over it and such. I'm trying to be able to develop more complex sites now as far as the design side. Thanks for your input.

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