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Old November 15th, 2004, 07:48 AM
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Menu table overlay

Hi,

I have a page that is split into 3 frames, top, main, footer.
I have a dropdown menu in top frame.

On mouse over it displays the menu, but some of it is 'under' the main frame,
so i cannot see the whole menu.

Is there a way to overlap the menu over the main frame?

Thanx
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Old November 15th, 2004, 02:34 PM
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In my past experiences with frames I don't believe that there is a way to make this happen. I think that this occurrence is dependent on the browser that you use... at least it was back in the early Netscape days. Is there a reason you have to use frames? If you have a top, main, footer, maybe you should eliminate the use of frames all-together. This would fix your problem and would make maintenance of the website easier.
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Old November 16th, 2004, 12:21 AM
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Hi,

I am using frames, because I don't want the whole page to
reload, only the body, but maybe I should re-think that.

I want the site to be as fast as possible, so I thought loading
only the body instead of the whole page would be quicker?

Thanx for your help.

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Old November 16th, 2004, 12:34 AM
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I would re-think your approach. Without preaching why frames are so 1996 and why they're bad for visitors for 100 different reasons, consider this....

Browsers cache images, style sheets, included files, etc. Using frames won't make things faster for anyone. Think of it this way... no big websites use frames... for good reason. If frames made life better for visitors than the developers that make $100,000+ per year would be using frames.

I know I didn't present a fair argument but I have a headache and I'm tired

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MSN uses iframes in my.msn.com,
try to use iframes instead of frames and see if the problem is fixed.
Iframes work the same way as frames, but with better layout.

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iframes are pretty different than regular frames. The big issue here is the iframes are not cross-browser compliant which is not consistent with current web usability standards. Since you won't want to eliminate any population of visitors you should stay away from iframes in my opinion.

Here is a quick page on 1 of the many reasons frames are not idea:
http://www.excessvoice.com/seo-article10.htm

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I have decided to stick with no frames, and it's working
great.

Thanx guys, I really appreciate your input.

Have a good one!

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Hi again, I am using just one frame now, but the problem is,

with the drop down menu, if the items in the menu overlap some
some text in the page itself, its goes transparent, so that the
text on the page can be seen through the menu items.

Hope this is clear enough?

I have played around with td and tr background colors's, but nothing helps.

Any ideas?

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what is the URL? alternatively, can you post a screen shot?

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Hi, I'm working of a development server, its not live yet.

Here is a screen shot of the problem.

As you can see, the menu is transparent, the bgcolor of the
menu and the page itself is different.

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that's just strange. You say you've taken care of table and td background colors? Does this only happen in IE? Try Firefox and see how it looks. That'll give you a better representation of what your code is actually doing.

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Talking

Hi,

I use FireFox, and MyIE2, but I have sorted out the problem.
I just added a "z-index=2" in the style-tag of the menu.

I hate it when the answer is so easy and I spend so much time
racking my brain to find it

Thanx for your help, really appreciate it!

Have a great day.

Our offices' aircon is broke...

Thanx again

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